This series of conversations between Marc Gafni and Andrew Cohen probe the intersection of absolute meaning and relative reality, within the context of the most destabilised and destabilising time in recent history.

Marc and Andrew will look deeply into the relentless challenge of being human, particularly at this unique moment in time, while simultaneously celebrating the profound cosmic and metaphysical significance of human incarnation.


November  4th, 2021




USA: 8am PST • 9am MST • 11am EST

UK: 4pm UTC


INDIA: 8.30pm IST




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Facing Apocalypse
Join Dr. Marc Gafni and Andrew Cohen in Dialogue

Many thought leaders, spiritual activists, scientists and cultural commentators insist that when it comes to climate change and environmental devastation, the seeds of our own destruction are already sown.


They have adopted a post doomer perspective which demands that we begin to already to grieve our extinction.


They claim, with a great deal of poignant fervor, that anyone who takes issue is in denial. They simply have not read the facts, citing books like the classic work Overshoot.

Is this an accurate assessment and sacred response to our current reality?

The predictive modelling, they say, is compelling; that it’s hard to deny the science; that we are too late to save ourselves, absent some as-yet-unimagined technological breakthrough that can reverse the trend and prevent the ultimate catastrophe.


Are these claims True?  

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Many of the best predictions suggest that we are too late to save ourselves, absent some as-yet-unimagined technological breakthrough that can reverse the trend and prevent the ultimate catastrophe.

Are these claims True?


Some go further and say that the moment complex cognition evolved in consciousness, the die was cast. In other words, the evolution of complex cognition itself leads inexorably to the extinction of the species that evolves it. 


Is this True or distorted?


This is a profoundly shocking thought for anyone to contemplate. But especially if you are devoted to the evolution of consciousness in a developmental context, it’s a devastating conclusion. If true, what would it mean about long-held assumptions that evolution inevitably leads to ever-greater complexity in a never-ending upward trajectory.


Some physicists have pointed out that we live in a universe in which mass extinction events are not only commonplace but inevitable.


Is this true or distorted?


That confronts us with another sobering and unsettling thought: mass extinction is a fundamental and intrinsic part of the evolutionary process, and only our deeply embedded anthropocentrism prevents us from realizing it.


Is this true or distorted?


Is this doom-laden narrative accurate and what does it’s arising at this moment in history mean from the highest possible perspective?

  • What are the implications for post-progressive spirituality and the evolution of consciousness? 

  • In a developmental context, have we fundamentally misunderstood evolution? 

  • How can we embrace the truth of radical uncertainty as a foundational principle to live by?

  • What are the joyful certainties at this moment in time that must be articulated and claimed?

  • What is the relationship in our hearts, bodies and souls, between our certainty and uncertainty?

  • What is the most Good, True and Beautiful response to the doomer claim that is arising in multiple quarters in these days?


These are without doubt the most pressing issues of our time. This next series of dialogues between Andrew Cohen and Dr. Marc Gafni seeks to explore this Outrageously painful and Outrageously beautiful moment of reckoning for our species – and indeed for consciousness itself.


Join Andrew Cohen and Dr. Marc Gafni in this dialogue on September 2nd at 8 am PT.

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A Time Between Stories
Join Dr. Marc Gafni and Andrew Cohen in Dialogue

We are truly living in “a time between stories” – a phase-shift in human history. We face either unimaginable utopia or dystopia, and it is far from clear which of these two parallel universes we will ultimately choose.


The apparently sturdy, reliable, fixed structures that have held our world together are on the brink of collapse. We are collectively realizing that we are not too big to fail – and in the face of such overwhelming insecurity, we may well lose sight of our moral compass completely. 


Cohen and Gafni both believe strongly that unless we are in control of our internal environment – in particular our capacity for radical sovereignty and sense-making – the outcome will be immeasurable suffering for billions of people. 


Cohen asserts that such sovereignty naturally arises from the liberating power of what he terms “spiritual self-confidence” – a position of deep trust that arises out of an unshakable certainty in the absolute, and an anchoring of the self-sense in that which cannot be grasped by the mind.


Similarly, Gafni describes an intention to live one’s life as “Outrageous Love” – a condition in which true sovereignty and authentic spiritual self-confidence naturally come into being. Rather than a dogmatic assertion that “it is true”, Gafni speaks of a radical knowing that “I am true”.


Cohen’s approach has always been grounded in the direct experience of nondual enlightenment, and this transmission of the ground of being – prior freedom and unity consciousness – is absolutely foundational to his teaching. For Cohen, a profound inner breakthrough from which there is no return is a prerequisite. 


However, Cohen’s pioneering realisation is that such an awakening only begins to make a significant difference when it is shared, intersubjectively, between two or more individuals. He has long emphasised the need for enlightenment to make the evolutionary leap from the individual to the collective, and has pioneered practices which reliably enable profound intersubjective coherence.


Likewise, Gafni sees radical enlightenment in terms of a higher individuation beyond ego. What he calls the “Evolutionary Unique Self” participates in a new quality of consciousness – the evolutionary intimacy of a Unique Self Symphony. He describes the process of attainment as “loving your way to enlightenment”. 

Gafni adds to this the need to democratize the possibility of human sovereignty, proposing a new “universal grammar of value” that integrates the best of premodern, modern and postmodern wisdom as a generator function for a new humanity. It is from within this shared human story woven from what he calls First Principle and First Values that Gafni envisions a radical re-making of policy and refashioning of culture.


Both Cohen and Gafni see a deep and abiding virtue in humanity - a truth, beauty and goodness that is real and tangible, even amid the sometimes painful limitations and vulnerabilities that we are reminded of, and humbled by, on a daily basis.


Both men agree that for spiritual attainment to mean something, it cannot be only rooted in the ego self personality, and that any basis for real change must include a new hierarchy of values that places radical spirit at the apex of our attention. What this actually means in terms of our models and practices for invoking the new human will be one of the key themes of these conversations


These two distinct but strongly aligned approaches to the wicked problems faced by humanity ultimately point in the same direction – only through a radical reorganisation of our sense of  value  can our capacity for clear thinking, feeling and sense-making be unleashed.

About Dr. Marc Gafni & Andrew Cohen

Marc Gafni and Andrew Cohen are spiritual teachers and thought leaders who share a strong foundation in an evolutionary approach to spiritual awakening and practice. Both are original and innovative thinkers who have produced pioneering bodies of work in evolutionary spirituality, and formulated many of its core tenets.


Their teachings uphold and demystify the foundational principles of traditional, modern and postmodern wisdom streams, weaving them together into an integral whole. The aim of these dialogues is to generate a creative and dynamic evolutionary tension – to catalyze an awakening to higher and deeper states and stages of consciousness, liberating insights and life-affirming perspectives.


The dialogues will unfold organically over time as an inspiring example of emergent spirituality in action – one that gives rise to its own unique tapestry of coherence and meaning.

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Watch Previous Dialogues 

Episode 1: "The Ultimate Mystery That Lies Beyond Life And Death"

Episode 2: "The Three Faces of God"

Episode 3: "Playing with Fire"

Episode 4: "Facing the Truth"